Negative Forno Bravo Reviews about BrickWood on the Forno Bravo Forum

I’m currently doing my homework on pizza ovens as my wife and I are planning on building an outdoor wood fired pizza oven this spring.

I’ve been on the Forno Bravo forum a couple of times and noticed you have 3 or 4 negative reviews from the same people. I’m just chalking this up to Forno Bravo being a competitor and having their “loyal” customers posting negative comments (or could it be Forno Bravo employees posting them under fake accounts?). Have you seen the comments?

Next question. I’d like to build a pizza oven like the Hollenbeck Oven you have on your Mattone Barile Gallery page, can you send me the directions for this oven?

Jefferson Brown
Round Rock, TX

Good morning Jefferson,

Yes, we are familiar with the comments posted on Forno Bravo’s website, and yes, many of them come from loyal Forno Bravo customers. With a little research, it’s not particularly difficult to identify some of the individuals behind those comments.

One commenter is a Forno Bravo customer who works for a brick and block dealer in Texas. That company was removed from our network of BrickWood Ovens Authorized Dealers several years ago. Another is a New England landscape contractor who builds premium-priced pizza ovens and has made a habit of publishing negative commentary about BrickWood Ovens. Unfortunately, his criticism of our company seems to extend well beyond the occasional product comparison.

We addressed many of these accusations years ago in a detailed response. What’s particularly troubling is that some of the ovens being presented as BrickWood Ovens aren’t even our products, as demonstrated by this photograph.

I’ve personally contacted Forno Bravo on multiple occasions to express my concerns about their continued promotion of what we believe to be false and defamatory statements about our company and products. After unsuccessful attempts by telephone, I created an account on their forum and professionally responded to several negative comments. I didn’t advertise or promote BrickWood Ovens; I simply addressed the accusations. Within minutes, my posts were deleted and I was permanently banned. Several of our customers have reported similar experiences after challenging inaccurate or misleading statements.

Interestingly, Forno Bravo has no apparent problem hosting negative commentary about competing brands, yet we’ve also documented what appear to be negative reviews of BrickWood Ovens products posted on Amazon while logged into a Forno Bravo account, complete with promotion of their own website. You can see an example here. We find this type of competitive conduct disappointing and certainly not how we believe businesses should treat one another.

But rather than focus on our competitors, let’s talk about actual BrickWood Ovens customers.

We use Yotpo, an independent third-party review platform, to collect customer feedback. Several months after purchasing an oven, customers receive an invitation directly from Yotpo to share their experience, whether positive or negative.

We are extremely proud of our 4.89 out of 5-star rating from more than 1000+ actual customers. These are independent customer reviews, not testimonials selectively published or edited by us. To date, I have yet to receive a negative review through this process or a complaint from an unhappy customer. I personally handle our customer emails and telephone inquiries. When you contact BrickWood Ovens, you reach the person who owns and operates the business. That’s personal accountability, and we take considerable pride in it.

We also have excellent relationships with other manufacturers in this industry and tremendous respect for their products. I’ve had the pleasure of working with Bill Paschen, former president of Chicago Brick Oven, and sharing a fantastic wood-fired pizza with him at a tradeshow in Orlando. We also hold Mugnaini Wood-Fired Ovens in very high regard. Both companies produce exceptionally well-crafted prefabricated ovens. We believe there’s room in this industry for multiple manufacturers, different designs, and different approaches to building quality wood-fired ovens. We’ve never felt the need to disparage another manufacturer to sell our products.

Now, regarding your second question and the beautiful Hollenbeck Oven:

That oven was constructed using our Mattone Barile Grande – Package 3. The package includes the EPS foam form, oven door, exhaust kit, ceramic fiber insulation blanket, and three-piece cooking accessory set. We also provide detailed installation instructions and a materials list.

The Hollenbeck, however, was very much an original design by its builder. While we don’t have specific instructions for recreating that particular oven, every oven featured in our Photo & Video Gallery links to its own customer gallery, showcasing photographs of the construction process at various stages. I encourage you to take a look. There are plenty of ideas and inspiration to be found!

Thank you for your questions, Jefferson. We appreciate your interest in BrickWood Ovens and are always happy to help.

Best regards,

BrickWood Ovens


Jefferson,

Good to see someone close building an oven as well… I live in south Austin and just finished ours - still have a few things to put in place, then I plan on submitting photos to Brickwood…Below is a sneak peak at ours… Let me know if you need any material recommendations - I can tell you who I went with in Austin. Also - I overshot how many firebricks I needed and have some left in case you would like to make an offer on them

Thanks - Matt

I have to jump in on this topic. I’ve been intrigued by wood fired ovens for years, I also was looking into adding an oven to our mobile food business so I did some research on brick ovens and know a couple of people who have them (mobile units from other suppliers). Every person I spoke with told me that if I wanted a wood fired oven I’d have to pay what they did AND a couple actually said it’d have to be imported from Italy to be any good. Most of them paid several thousand dollars for a smallish round pizza oven which (according to them) was the ONLY design that could/would work. I now look at them as “oven snobs”.

Well, I couldn’t convince the wife to shell out several grand for a backyard oven that I wanted to start with to gain experience AND have one always available at home. So, off to the internet to see what I could come up with that would:
A. Work well
B. Is cost efficient
C. Looked good
D. Wasn’t made of corn cobs or self made bricks / mud
E. Is cost efficient as it had to pass by the “COO” (did I mention that before?).

After long debate I settled on a Barile Grande and we were off to the races! After it was built I was having issues with proper heating so I scoured other oven sites to see what might be the issue ( I chose to ignore the advice I’d gotten on there). I ran into all sorts of “helpful” advice from “you got cheated” to “tear it down and start over with XXXX design by our manufacturer” or my favorite “it’s a poor design and not technically correct… it will never work so get rid of it and by this oven for a several grand”.

So, after feeling totally bummed and cheated I decided I’d spent way too much time and effort building this oven AND there were too many visible success stories to give up on it. I came back here, read through all the stuff again and sent an email or two to the company and tried again.

Well, it turns out that the oven does work very, very well though I’ve still got some kinks to work out which, in my opinion are completely my fault due to lack of time to run it frequently enough to figure it all out. Eventually I’ll just either break down and go to a class or be able to go to the Pizza Expo seminars in Las Vegas.

One thing I did learn is bigger is NOT always better. The Barile Grande is/was wayyyyy larger than I honestly needed but that wasn’t apparent until after I got the form. The running joke is I could always switch over to a crematorium for extra income LOL. I guess go big or go home right?

The bottom line is yes, there are detractors out there just like there are with every other product on earth. Chevy is better than Ford or vise versa and one has to buy a Caddy to have a smooth ride but you DON’T have to spend thousands to have a great pizza / bread / roasting oven!

To that I say “bollocks”, this oven works very well, it’s just as good as the person operating it.

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Thank you for the detailed review TwoDips! We know you time is valuable and truly appreciate your value-added feedback! If you ever have any questions about your oven, please don’t hesitate to reach out to us at anytime!

Kevin